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Moderator: Ras Luis Babboni Posts: 464 Joined: Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:37 pm Location: Argentina Winboard for windows? Hi,is redundant to say "winboard chess engine for Windows"?"winboard chess engine" is enough to know its just works in Windows?Thanks! Evert Posts: 2929 Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:42 am Location: NL Contact: Re: Winboard for windows? Post by Evert » Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:02 pm Luis Babboni wrote:is redundant to say "winboard chess engine for Windows"?"winboard chess engine" is enough to know its just works in Windows?"WinBoard" is the Windows port of XBoard, a graphical user interface.A "WinBoard chess engine" is a chess engine that communicates using the CECP protocol (aka, the "XBoard protocol" or "WinBoard protocol"). This in no way implies that it only works in Windows. Luis Babboni Posts: 464 Joined: Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:37 pm Location: Argentina Re: Winboard for windows? Post by Luis Babboni » Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:36 pm Evert wrote:...A "WinBoard chess engine" is a chess engine that communicates using the CECP protocol (aka, the "XBoard protocol" or "WinBoard protocol"). This in no way implies that it only works in Windows.Thanks Evert!So if my engine just works in Windows, is correct to say: "winboard chess engine for Windows" ? MikeB Posts: 4889 Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:34 am Location: Pen Argyl, Pennsylvania Re: Winboard for windows? Post by MikeB » Thu Jun 09, 2016 5:23 pm Evert wrote:Luis Babboni wrote:is redundant to say "winboard chess engine for Windows"?"winboard chess engine" is enough to know its just works in Windows?"WinBoard" is the Windows port of XBoard, a graphical user interface.A "WinBoard chess engine" is a chess engine that communicates using the CECP protocol (aka, the "XBoard protocol" or "WinBoard protocol"). This in no way implies that it only works in Windows.Why was it called winboard in the first place - we would normally say xBoard for Windows , xBoard for Linux and xBoard for Mac when an APIs ported to different systems. Evert Posts: 2929 Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:42 am Location: NL Contact: Re: Winboard for windows? Post by Evert » Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:57 pm MikeB wrote:Why was it called winboard in the first place - we would normally say xBoard for Windows , xBoard for Linux and xBoard for Mac when an APIs ported to different systems.While I can't speak for the guy who did the port, the name "xboard" follows a UNIX naming convention where the name of the program is "board" and the "x" indicates it runs under the "X Window System". So indeed the natural name for the Windows port is "winboard", and the OS X port would be "osxboard"."Xboard for Windows" would then be a Windows program that runs under the X11 server for Windows (which is a bit obscure and not commonly installed). MikeB Posts: 4889 Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:34 am Location: Pen Argyl, Pennsylvania Re: Winboard for windows? Post by MikeB » Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:30 pm Evert

Wrote:MikeB wrote:Why was it called winboard in the first place - we would normally say xBoard for Windows , xBoard for Linux and xBoard for Mac when an APIs ported to different systems.While I can't speak for the guy who did the port, the name "xboard" follows a UNIX naming convention where the name of the program is "board" and the "x" indicates it runs under the "X Window System". So indeed the natural name for the Windows port is "winboard", and the OS X port would be "osxboard"."Xboard for Windows" would then be a Windows program that runs under the X11 server for Windows (which is a bit obscure and not commonly installed).So in essence , somebody wrote a program called "Board" for those were too "bored"? ( too play chess on the commandline interface) Luis Babboni Posts: 464 Joined: Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:37 pm Location: Argentina JoshPettus Posts: 730 Joined: Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:23 am Re: Winboard for windows? Post by JoshPettus » Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:09 am Well for years the only way to run XBoard on OSX was through a X11 server on OSX. So the name still applied. Although once we moved to GTK+ it became possible to run it directly through Quartz. I suppose I could have called the gtk+/quartz app MacBoard....But it's the same exact codebase where as winboard is quite separate. Not to mention I feel a true MacBoard should be using the native OSX Cocoa toolkit. (But there have been quite a few advantages of keeping it GTK. Possible for a amateur coder like me figure out and throw it all together, easier to maintain by our non mac coder, ability to use SVG images which is not supported by the OS natively, use of the same localization files, and I'm sure many other areas). And then I have to consider the loss of brand recognition which is important...

You can download the WinBoard Shogi Variants Package, which includes HaChu, a computer engine designed specifically to play Chu Shogi (it also plays a mean game of Sho Shogi and Dai Shogi). Apparently HaChu can play a pretty great game of Tenjiku Shogi nowadays too, although this version is not yet released — when it is, you’ll want to download WinBoard Alien Edition to play the larger Shogi variants.Anyway, please pick one of those options and give Chu Shogi a go — it may take a game or two to sink in, but if nothing else I’m sure you’ll understand how this game managed to survive for 600 years, even in the face of the massive popularity of modern Shogi. You may even find it becomes an all-time favourite, as it has for me.Even better, once you learn Chu Shogi you can easily pick up the larger Shogi variants — you could learn Dai Shogi in a few minutes, and Tenjiku Shogi in an afternoon. I’ll be covering both these games in later posts, too, including a little piece on why Dai Shogi is more than just Chu Shogi’s older, slower big brother. Tenjiku will speak for itself — that game is like nothing else out there and has a deservedly strong reputation.In future instalments of this Chu Shogi series I’ll cover more detailed tips for Chu Shogi, including building castles for defense and developing checkmating attacks. I’ll also fully annotate a game of Chu Shogi, talking through the moves